1 00:02:06,830 --> 00:00:36,610 [Music] 2 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,810 me 3 00:03:02,830 --> 00:02:21,920 [Music] 4 00:04:17,670 --> 00:03:04,910 so 5 00:04:25,909 --> 00:04:19,349 thank you for joining our telecom we 6 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:28,790 hello welcome to our teleconference we 7 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:30,720 are doing some sound checks right now 8 00:04:34,150 --> 00:04:31,919 and after our sound check 9 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:34,160 we will go live and start the briefing 10 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,120 thank you 11 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:37,440 to start i'd like to get the names of 12 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:40,000 our presenters 13 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:44,880 robert hogg on i'm sorry kim 14 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,830 thank you and stand by we will go live 15 00:04:54,840 --> 00:05:38,710 shortly 16 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:41,270 welcome to today's teleconference 17 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:42,720 mission team members from 18 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:45,520 nasa's jet propulsion laboratory in 19 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:47,039 southern california 20 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:49,199 will discuss some of the first 21 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:50,240 accomplishments 22 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:53,440 of the rover to date i'm your host 23 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:56,560 raquel villanueva joining us on this 24 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:57,600 teleconference 25 00:06:06,550 --> 00:06:01,440 is robert hogg perseverance 26 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:06,560 deputy mission manager anais 27 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:10,080 perseverance mobility test bed engineer 28 00:06:17,430 --> 00:06:13,759 and katie staff morgan perseverance 29 00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:17,440 deputy project scientist for anyone 30 00:06:20,309 --> 00:06:19,199 listening who would like to submit a 31 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:20,319 question 32 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:23,440 you can do so by using the countdown to 33 00:06:27,029 --> 00:06:25,199 mars hashtag 34 00:06:29,590 --> 00:06:27,039 our phone lines are now open to the 35 00:06:34,070 --> 00:06:29,600 media you can ask a question 36 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:34,080 by pressing star one to enter the queue 37 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:36,319 to access the images that we will be 38 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:38,000 seeing during the event 39 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:41,759 visit nasa.gov 40 00:06:49,589 --> 00:06:46,240 perseverance first to set the stage 41 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:49,599 nasa's mars 2020 perseverance rover 42 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:52,000 touched down at jezreel crater on 43 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:53,360 february 18th 44 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:57,199 and the team has been very busy since 45 00:07:03,029 --> 00:06:59,039 i'll hand it over to robert to talk 46 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,039 about what the team has been up to 47 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:05,759 thanks a lot raquel well everything is 48 00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:06,240 going 49 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:08,560 very well on our latest mission to mars 50 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:10,720 here perseverance has been doing an 51 00:07:13,830 --> 00:07:12,000 exceptional job 52 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:13,840 during her first two weeks on the red 53 00:07:16,469 --> 00:07:15,199 planet 54 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:16,479 one of the great things about the 55 00:07:19,830 --> 00:07:18,400 beginning days of these missions is all 56 00:07:20,950 --> 00:07:19,840 the things that happen for the very 57 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:20,960 first time 58 00:07:26,550 --> 00:07:23,840 every day for example the first image 59 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:26,560 that came down after we landed 60 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:28,960 the rover's first radio report back to 61 00:07:32,950 --> 00:07:30,880 earth via our orbiters 62 00:07:34,629 --> 00:07:32,960 the first caller panorama of our landing 63 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:34,639 site all the first 64 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:37,919 instrument checks after landing and 65 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:39,919 the first time we get to see various 66 00:07:43,749 --> 00:07:40,960 major parts 67 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:43,759 of the system working as they should so 68 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:44,479 on that note 69 00:07:47,990 --> 00:07:47,280 i am happy to report that yesterday 70 00:07:51,029 --> 00:07:48,000 afternoon 71 00:07:51,990 --> 00:07:51,039 we carried out our very first drive on 72 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:52,000 mars 73 00:07:56,629 --> 00:07:53,520 go ahead and show that first picture 74 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,150 here we're looking out the front of the 75 00:08:01,909 --> 00:08:00,240 rover and you can see our first tracks 76 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:01,919 on mars and this was just 77 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:05,199 so amazing to see last night 78 00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:08,000 and uh we're really happy about this 79 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:08,560 andy 80 00:08:11,909 --> 00:08:10,160 is going to talk to this first drive in 81 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:11,919 detail shortly so we'll come back to 82 00:08:16,390 --> 00:08:13,360 this 83 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:16,400 so i'll describe another recent first 84 00:08:20,950 --> 00:08:18,639 which was our robotic arm checkout which 85 00:08:23,189 --> 00:08:20,960 we carried out on cell 12. 86 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:23,199 go ahead and show that next graphic the 87 00:08:29,510 --> 00:08:26,479 simulation of the arm moving 88 00:08:32,230 --> 00:08:29,520 so this is with our five degree freedom 89 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:32,240 seven foot long robotic arm with a very 90 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:32,880 complex 91 00:08:35,909 --> 00:08:35,360 turret assembly at the end the turret 92 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:35,919 weighs 93 00:08:42,070 --> 00:08:38,959 45 kilograms or close to 100 pounds so 94 00:08:42,550 --> 00:08:42,080 this thing is is massive what you're 95 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:42,560 seeing 96 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:45,040 in this simulation is it's actually a 97 00:08:48,630 --> 00:08:46,560 representation of 98 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:48,640 the telemetry we got back of what the 99 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:50,160 arm did on mars 100 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:53,120 of all the different motions of the arm 101 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:54,160 we call this the 102 00:08:57,750 --> 00:08:56,959 the no load checkout it unstows and 103 00:09:00,389 --> 00:08:57,760 places 104 00:09:01,990 --> 00:09:00,399 the whole arm in a vertical orientation 105 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:02,000 and then it does a test wiggle 106 00:09:10,070 --> 00:09:05,120 of each joint and then it rested 107 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:11,750 so here you're seeing the actual images 108 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:13,760 from the rover that we got back of this 109 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:14,480 activity 110 00:09:20,389 --> 00:09:17,839 which was super cool i should mention 111 00:09:22,230 --> 00:09:20,399 uh the turret has two of our very 112 00:09:24,949 --> 00:09:22,240 important science instruments 113 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:24,959 sherlock and pixel and it also has an 114 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:26,399 engineering camera 115 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:29,839 watson so yeah sherlock and watson will 116 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:30,880 be doing 117 00:09:36,389 --> 00:09:34,240 up close sleuthing for us on mars here 118 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,399 and of course the turret has the very 119 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:38,240 important operator and corer 120 00:09:43,190 --> 00:09:41,120 for drilling and taking the samples that 121 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:43,200 we hope to return to earth 122 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:46,320 and finally it has the gdrt we call it 123 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:47,040 the gas 124 00:09:51,430 --> 00:09:49,920 dust removal tool for blowing surfaces 125 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:51,440 clean 126 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:53,360 this robotic arm is also used for 127 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:54,800 engineering imaging 128 00:09:58,470 --> 00:09:56,560 for example being able to see under the 129 00:10:02,389 --> 00:09:58,480 rover where the helicopter is 130 00:10:05,350 --> 00:10:02,399 and taking our now famous rover selfies 131 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:05,360 so great to see it unstowed here and put 132 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:06,720 through its paces 133 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:09,360 for the first time another important 134 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:10,240 first 135 00:10:16,389 --> 00:10:13,839 instrument deployments 136 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:16,399 checkouts and calibrations that we've 137 00:10:20,630 --> 00:10:18,880 been doing over the last five days 138 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:20,640 one of these that was really fun to see 139 00:10:25,430 --> 00:10:22,959 was the uh the meta instrument 140 00:10:26,710 --> 00:10:25,440 our weather station from our partners in 141 00:10:30,790 --> 00:10:26,720 spain 142 00:10:33,269 --> 00:10:30,800 please show uh this next picture r4 143 00:10:34,470 --> 00:10:33,279 so in salt 12 we deployed the meta wind 144 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:34,480 sensors 145 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:37,040 which are housed on the mast and you can 146 00:10:40,949 --> 00:10:38,160 see them 147 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:40,959 uh in testing on earth on the left and 148 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:41,920 then on the right 149 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:45,040 is a little animated gif of 150 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:48,320 uh on mars showing each uh 151 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:50,720 wind temperature successfully deploying 152 00:10:54,389 --> 00:10:52,720 uh so that was that was great to see 153 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:54,399 there's one more important milestone i 154 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:57,600 want to describe that doesn't involve 155 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:00,880 any great images but it's vital and that 156 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:01,760 is our flight 157 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:04,079 software update the software that runs 158 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:05,120 the rover 159 00:11:09,269 --> 00:11:08,480 after landing we spent a few saws doing 160 00:11:11,990 --> 00:11:09,279 a complete 161 00:11:12,310 --> 00:11:12,000 upgrade to our service software which 162 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:12,320 has 163 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:14,480 been in development and testing for many 164 00:11:18,550 --> 00:11:16,160 many years 165 00:11:20,550 --> 00:11:18,560 so this is the software that that really 166 00:11:23,430 --> 00:11:20,560 releases all the capabilities 167 00:11:25,350 --> 00:11:23,440 that first appearance has available for 168 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:25,360 our surface mission 169 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:28,560 it's about 16 megabytes so pretty small 170 00:11:32,069 --> 00:11:28,880 but 171 00:11:32,949 --> 00:11:32,079 when operating it has 140 tasks all 172 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:32,959 running 173 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:35,440 on the rover's computer at the same time 174 00:11:38,710 --> 00:11:37,279 and when we did this update we had to be 175 00:11:41,190 --> 00:11:38,720 very careful 176 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:41,200 not to have any major problems because 177 00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:42,240 you know there's no 178 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:44,800 helpline to call or any way that we can 179 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:46,880 run over to the rover and press the big 180 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:50,720 reset button so we were very careful and 181 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:52,480 and getting it done was a big relief for 182 00:11:57,190 --> 00:11:53,360 the team 183 00:11:58,069 --> 00:11:57,200 and uh so the end result is is kind of 184 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,079 like getting an 185 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:00,320 update to your electric car stuff where 186 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:01,600 one day your car 187 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,920 knows how to do autonomous driving 188 00:12:06,629 --> 00:12:06,000 detecting obstacles and navigating by 189 00:12:09,110 --> 00:12:06,639 itself 190 00:12:11,829 --> 00:12:09,120 uh amongst many many other bells and 191 00:12:13,430 --> 00:12:11,839 whistles that we have in store 192 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:13,440 all right so i'll now hand it over to 193 00:12:18,949 --> 00:12:15,760 anna east and she can tell you all about 194 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:21,110 thanks robert so before i get into the 195 00:12:24,710 --> 00:12:22,560 first drive 196 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:24,720 i wanted to give a little overview of 197 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:26,720 our mobility system so if we go to the 198 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:27,680 first graphic 199 00:12:33,509 --> 00:12:30,720 a1 so 200 00:12:34,949 --> 00:12:33,519 you'll see our rover during its first 201 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:34,959 drive on earth 202 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:38,160 we are six wheel drive so with one motor 203 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:39,920 for each of the six wheels that move us 204 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:41,839 forward and backward 205 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:44,160 and our four corner wheels are able to 206 00:12:48,069 --> 00:12:45,040 steer so that's 207 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:48,079 10 actuators total but with only eight 208 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,920 motor control cards we can't drive the 209 00:12:53,350 --> 00:12:51,600 steer at the same time so if we ever 210 00:12:55,030 --> 00:12:53,360 want to turn we have to steer the four 211 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:55,040 corner wheels in place first and then 212 00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:57,040 drive a longer path 213 00:13:01,350 --> 00:12:59,680 so we can turn in place or drive along 214 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:01,360 six for richer arcs and 215 00:13:08,949 --> 00:13:05,680 all at a top speed of .01 miles per hour 216 00:13:10,389 --> 00:13:08,959 so not very fast and you'll kind of see 217 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:10,399 you'll kind of see those arcs in those 218 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:13,040 tracks when we get into a later picture 219 00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:15,519 of the first drive the wheels are all 220 00:13:18,470 --> 00:13:17,440 attached to a rocker bogey suspension 221 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:18,480 system 222 00:13:22,550 --> 00:13:20,160 which has heritage all the way back to 223 00:13:23,430 --> 00:13:22,560 syndra and so even though perseverance 224 00:13:25,509 --> 00:13:23,440 is obviously 225 00:13:28,230 --> 00:13:25,519 a much larger rover we're still able to 226 00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:28,240 use it and with our suspension design we 227 00:13:30,310 --> 00:13:28,639 can 228 00:13:32,150 --> 00:13:30,320 technically drive over rocks that are 229 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:32,160 about one wheel diameter in height while 230 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:33,279 still keeping 231 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:36,399 the rover chassis leveled um 232 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:38,560 so you know i mentioned our suspension 233 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:40,720 design has heritage back to the journey 234 00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:42,560 even part of parts of our software 235 00:13:45,670 --> 00:13:44,639 are built upon code that we've used in 236 00:13:47,829 --> 00:13:45,680 previous rovers 237 00:13:49,189 --> 00:13:47,839 so the mobility system that you see 238 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:49,199 today is really built over 239 00:13:52,870 --> 00:13:51,279 decades and several missions with each 240 00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:52,880 one making improvements over its 241 00:13:55,670 --> 00:13:54,079 predecessor 242 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:55,680 so some new things that we have on 243 00:14:00,069 --> 00:13:57,600 perseverance are are 244 00:14:01,110 --> 00:14:00,079 our redesigned wheels they're slightly 245 00:14:03,189 --> 00:14:01,120 narrower 246 00:14:05,430 --> 00:14:03,199 they're thicker with a larger diameter 247 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:05,440 which gives us some better traction 248 00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:07,360 and we have a new browser design the 249 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:08,880 grousers are the treads 250 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:10,959 that tread patterns you see on the wheel 251 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:12,720 and it makes us less prone to tears in 252 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:14,000 the wheels when we drive over sharp 253 00:14:18,550 --> 00:14:15,360 rocks 254 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:18,560 another notable new addition to our 255 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:19,040 system 256 00:14:22,389 --> 00:14:21,040 is the vce which is our vision compute 257 00:14:24,389 --> 00:14:22,399 element 258 00:14:26,870 --> 00:14:24,399 if you remember from edl we have the vce 259 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:26,880 for terrain relative navigation 260 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:28,399 but now that we're on the surface we've 261 00:14:32,150 --> 00:14:30,320 repurposed it entirely 262 00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:32,160 for the surface mission to process 263 00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:34,160 imagery for mobility and help us with 264 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:35,760 our autonomous navigation 265 00:14:40,310 --> 00:14:38,480 so that same electronic box because we 266 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:40,320 can't physically change anything on it 267 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,760 now that we're on mars 268 00:14:45,590 --> 00:14:43,680 now has a brand new software installed 269 00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:45,600 on it and it's ready to go for driving 270 00:14:49,750 --> 00:14:48,399 thanks to our incredible vce team 271 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:49,760 so that was just one of the things that 272 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:51,440 we did in preparation for our first 273 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:52,240 drive 274 00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,000 um if we go to our second graphic a2 275 00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:58,560 we also did a sphere actuator checkout 276 00:15:02,150 --> 00:15:00,320 so i mentioned each of our four corner 277 00:15:04,150 --> 00:15:02,160 wheels are able to turn 278 00:15:05,670 --> 00:15:04,160 um we commanded each of those four 279 00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:05,680 wheels through a 30 degree range of 280 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,120 motion while monitoring motor 281 00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:09,440 performance and suspension angles 282 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:12,320 and it went really well in certain cases 283 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:13,839 better than we expected we saw some 284 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:15,040 performance but 285 00:15:20,069 --> 00:15:17,760 in some cases was better than we've seen 286 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:20,079 on earth driving in the mars yard and 287 00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:21,600 whether that's from the underlying 288 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:24,160 terrain or you know the mars gravity 289 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:26,240 we're not entirely sure but it worked 290 00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:27,600 beautifully and 291 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:29,839 we were so excited to move on to the 292 00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:31,040 first drive 293 00:15:37,030 --> 00:15:34,880 so if we go to a3 294 00:15:37,910 --> 00:15:37,040 you'll see what our first drive actually 295 00:15:41,749 --> 00:15:37,920 did yesterday 296 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:41,759 so our plan which executed 297 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:45,120 perfectly was to first drive four meters 298 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:47,519 forward that's about 13 feet 299 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:50,560 make 150 degree turn to the left 300 00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:53,680 counterclockwise and then back up 301 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:55,360 about two and a half meters about eight 302 00:16:00,310 --> 00:15:57,680 feet and then during that drive 303 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:00,320 we took a pause to image the touchdown 304 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:02,320 contact patch on the tires so where the 305 00:16:06,069 --> 00:16:03,440 tires 306 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:06,079 made contact or the wheels i should say 307 00:16:08,069 --> 00:16:07,680 where the wheels made contact with the 308 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:08,079 ground 309 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:10,800 when we landed and also throughout the 310 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:12,320 drive we took some images 311 00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:14,639 from the nav cams and processed them on 312 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:15,839 our vce 313 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:18,079 to kind of prove that software pipeline 314 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:20,000 that feeds images into the vce for 315 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:23,360 perception and image processing 316 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:26,639 so our first drive went incredibly well 317 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,189 you can see the wheel tracks that we 318 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:35,120 left on mars i don't think i've 319 00:16:39,110 --> 00:16:36,880 ever been happier to see wheel tracks 320 00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:39,120 and i've seen a lot of them 321 00:16:42,470 --> 00:16:41,839 and this is just a huge milestone for 322 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:42,480 the mission 323 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:44,560 and the mobility team like we've driven 324 00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:46,720 on earth but driving on mars is 325 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:49,519 really the ultimate goal and just so 326 00:16:53,269 --> 00:16:51,440 many people i can't even count and work 327 00:16:54,790 --> 00:16:53,279 towards this very moment for years you 328 00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:54,800 know whether they worked on 329 00:16:59,829 --> 00:16:57,920 designing and building the actuators the 330 00:17:00,949 --> 00:16:59,839 newly redesigned wheels the motor 331 00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:00,959 control system 332 00:17:04,789 --> 00:17:02,959 writing this incredibly intricate 333 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:04,799 mobility flight software 334 00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:06,720 or spending days and nights in the test 335 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:08,880 bed in the mars yards testing debugging 336 00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:11,039 and retesting the mobility system 337 00:17:14,949 --> 00:17:12,959 to make sure everything works together 338 00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:14,959 like this is this is really what we've 339 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:16,720 been working towards and 340 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:19,520 it's just amazing to see i i don't think 341 00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:22,400 the team could have been happier 342 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:25,839 so you know looking ahead 343 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:27,520 we're gonna do some longer drives this 344 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,880 is really just the beginning 345 00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:30,559 you know now that we've showed that 346 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:32,000 we're able to drive when we can 347 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:34,880 do this our mobility system is capable 348 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:36,000 of doing 349 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:38,400 so much more we still drive at 0.01 350 00:17:43,270 --> 00:17:40,240 miles per hour 351 00:17:45,110 --> 00:17:43,280 same curiosity but you know thanks to 352 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:45,120 our improvements on our autonomous 353 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:46,640 software our enhanced navigation 354 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:47,440 software 355 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:49,520 and our new cameras we can really drive 356 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:51,600 five times faster than curiosity and 357 00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:53,600 we're capable of averaging about 200 358 00:17:57,590 --> 00:17:54,320 meters 359 00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:57,600 per saw um and that's also partially due 360 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:59,520 to the vce which offloads 361 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:01,280 you know the burden of image processing 362 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:03,039 from the rover's main computer 363 00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:05,919 or able to think while driving so in 364 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,799 other words 365 00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:08,880 perseverance can walk and chew gum at 366 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:10,480 the same time 367 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:12,400 is a phrase we kind of like to use and 368 00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:14,480 so we're able to take a stereo pair of 369 00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:15,039 images 370 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:19,520 houses in the terrain and choose a safe 371 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:20,799 path forward 372 00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:22,880 all while the wheels are still turning 373 00:18:26,789 --> 00:18:24,320 and moving forward 374 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:26,799 and so this means we can drive longer in 375 00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:29,200 the same amount of time 376 00:18:35,590 --> 00:18:33,039 and we can have less time planning 377 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:35,600 drives and driving on the surface which 378 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,320 means 379 00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:38,160 more time to do science which is why 380 00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:40,240 we're there in the first place 381 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,400 and speaking of science i will hand it 382 00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:44,400 over to katie to talk about what the 383 00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:45,679 science team is 384 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,919 so excited to do with all the extra time 385 00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:50,000 they're going to have 386 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,760 thanks so much anais if we could please 387 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:53,760 bring up k1 388 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:55,679 as the perseverance team celebrates the 389 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:57,760 rover's first successful drive on the 390 00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:58,880 surface of mars 391 00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:00,880 i am honored and excited to announce 392 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:02,960 that perseverance's landing site is now 393 00:19:08,549 --> 00:19:06,080 called octavia e butler landing 394 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:08,559 if you could bring up k2 please the 395 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,320 perseverance science team has chosen to 396 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:12,400 name the touchdown site for octavia e 397 00:19:14,870 --> 00:19:12,960 butler 398 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:14,880 a visionary author and pasadena 399 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,080 california native 400 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:18,240 who is the first african american woman 401 00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:20,400 to win both the hugo award and nebula 402 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:21,919 prize for science fiction 403 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:23,840 and the first science fiction writer to 404 00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:26,400 be awarded a macarthur fellowship 405 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:28,240 butler's pioneering works explored 406 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:29,600 themes of race 407 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,320 gender equality and humanity centering 408 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,320 on the experiences of black women at a 409 00:19:38,230 --> 00:19:36,000 time when such voices were largely 410 00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:38,240 absent from science fiction butler's 411 00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:40,400 protagonists embodied determination and 412 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:41,360 inventiveness 413 00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:43,200 making her a perfect fit for the 414 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:44,720 perseverance rover mission 415 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:47,440 and its theme of overcoming challenges 416 00:19:50,070 --> 00:19:48,480 butler inspired 417 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:50,080 and influenced the planetary science 418 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:51,679 community and many beyond 419 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,200 including those typically under 420 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,960 represented in stem fields 421 00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:56,320 and the fact that her works are as 422 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,400 relevant today if not more so 423 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,840 than when they were originally written 424 00:20:01,990 --> 00:20:01,440 and published is a testament to her 425 00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:02,000 vision 426 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:04,320 genius and timelessness naming 427 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,000 perseverance's landing site in honor 428 00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:08,320 of octavia e butler honors a notable 429 00:20:12,149 --> 00:20:10,000 science fiction writer a theme 430 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,159 also used by the mars science laboratory 431 00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:14,240 team who named the curiosity rover's 432 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:16,080 landing site in honor of science fiction 433 00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,480 writer ray bradbury in 2012. 434 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,240 we chose on this mission to continue 435 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:22,320 this scene in appreciation of the role 436 00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,080 that science fiction writers have played 437 00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,000 in inspiring so many of us 438 00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:28,159 to become the engineers scientists and 439 00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:29,520 explorers who turn 440 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,200 science fiction into reality for the 441 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,120 next generation 442 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,720 while perseverance has been positioned 443 00:20:38,789 --> 00:20:36,480 at octavia e butler landing 444 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:38,799 the science team has been really busy uh 445 00:20:41,110 --> 00:20:40,640 the meta instrument the rover's weather 446 00:20:42,470 --> 00:20:41,120 station 447 00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:42,480 has already begun collecting and 448 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,720 returning data to earth and two weeks 449 00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:46,320 into the mission we've received about 450 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:49,200 7 000 images from the rover's cameras 451 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,880 including our first views of some of the 452 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,799 geologic targets of exploration that 453 00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:54,480 brought the rover to jezreel 454 00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:57,200 if we could bring please bring up k3 455 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,960 this image is from the mass can be 456 00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:00,960 camera located on the rover's mast 457 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:03,280 it shows a flat light-toned rock on the 458 00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:04,640 right side of the image 459 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,799 on which we targeted the very first 460 00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:07,760 observation from 461 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:09,919 supercam one of the rover's instruments 462 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:11,840 for analyzing the composition of rocks 463 00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,880 at the surface 464 00:21:16,950 --> 00:21:14,880 results from this first observation will 465 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:16,960 be presented at a special super cam 466 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:17,679 briefing 467 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:19,919 next wednesday but on the left side of 468 00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:20,720 the image 469 00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:23,039 rocks characterized by hole partially 470 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:24,640 filled with dark sands 471 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,720 contrast with the lighter tone smoother 472 00:21:30,789 --> 00:21:28,720 texture of the rock on the right 473 00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:30,799 the image colors that you can see um 474 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:32,880 here are portray an estimate of the 475 00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:34,960 natural color of each of these beings 476 00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:36,559 and are approximately what this scene 477 00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:38,320 would look like if if you viewed it with 478 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:39,919 your own eyes here on earth 479 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:43,120 if we could please bring up k4 and what 480 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,880 we can see in this image 481 00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:46,640 uh from the first high resolution 482 00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:48,480 panorama from mass kmz 483 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,960 are distant deposits of the jezro delta 484 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:52,000 in the background 485 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:53,600 the rocks in the foreground may be 486 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:55,120 similar to those in and around the 487 00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:56,400 rover's landing site 488 00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:57,840 but i'd like to call attention to the 489 00:22:01,510 --> 00:21:59,760 rocks in the mound in the background 490 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,520 this is about a mile and a half away 491 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,600 from the rover and these rocks look 492 00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:05,360 notably different in that you can 493 00:22:08,950 --> 00:22:07,200 actually resolve layering within the 494 00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:08,960 rocks you see in this outcrop 495 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:10,640 these resistant layered rocks were 496 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:12,880 likely deposited by rivers flowing into 497 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:13,760 the ancient lake 498 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:16,080 jezreel and scientists on the team are 499 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,600 hard at work trying to understand the 500 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:19,520 significance and origin of rocks like 501 00:22:21,430 --> 00:22:20,080 this 502 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,440 that we're seeing on the ground at the 503 00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,760 landing site for the very first time 504 00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:25,360 but before we can think about exploring 505 00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:27,120 the jezreel delta we have to figure out 506 00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:28,799 how to get the rover there 507 00:22:31,990 --> 00:22:30,080 the science team is working with 508 00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:32,000 engineers to determine the best path for 509 00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,039 the rover to drive 510 00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:35,440 to the delta so if you could bring up k5 511 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:36,400 please 512 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,480 this is a base map made of orbiter 513 00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,400 images from the mars reconnaissance 514 00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:42,000 orbiter high-rise camera 515 00:22:45,350 --> 00:22:44,000 showing possible traverse paths that the 516 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:45,360 science team is considering for 517 00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:46,720 exploring jezreel 518 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,320 from the landing site which is the white 519 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:50,400 dot there we're considering two options 520 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:51,520 to get to the delta 521 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:54,720 a clockwise path and a traverse so you 522 00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,400 can see here in blue and purple 523 00:23:02,630 --> 00:23:00,400 we're working with engineers now to 524 00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:02,640 determine which path is most efficient 525 00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:03,360 and safest 526 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:05,039 and most scientifically interesting for 527 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:06,960 the rover to explore and then we'll 528 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:09,200 arrive there at the front of the delta 529 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:10,960 from there we'll go and explore the 530 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,240 delta 531 00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:14,080 and eventually winding up at the mouth 532 00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,559 of the river that once entered jezreel 533 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:18,400 where we will likely deposit our very 534 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:20,400 first sample depot 535 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:22,320 but to return to near-term milestone the 536 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,320 rover team has just planned to drive 537 00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:26,480 early this morning incorporating rimfax 538 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:28,480 the rover's ground penetrating radar 539 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:29,120 system that 540 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,520 you can use to see into the subsurface 541 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,360 this first data set will add to our 542 00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,760 understanding of the geologic context 543 00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:38,320 of octavia e butler landing and will set 544 00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:39,360 us on our path to 545 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:42,000 begin exploration of jezreel crater so 546 00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:43,440 with that i'll hand things back to you 547 00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:48,070 thank you kahi and thanks to all our 548 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:49,120 speakers 549 00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:52,880 we are now ready to take media questions 550 00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:55,840 remember to press star one to get put in 551 00:23:59,430 --> 00:23:56,720 the queue 552 00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:59,440 and please direct your questions to one 553 00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,480 of our guests 554 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,039 we're also taking questions through the 555 00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:05,840 countdown to mars hashtag 556 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,559 we'll start with marcia dunn from the 557 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:10,559 associated press 558 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,679 yes hi um can you hear me 559 00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:15,520 yes we can hear you yes i have a 560 00:24:19,750 --> 00:24:17,679 question from miss 561 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,760 i'd like to know how you know i know you 562 00:24:24,710 --> 00:24:20,880 said that there over 563 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:24,720 drove 40 meters then did a little spin 564 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:27,600 in total how much distance has it 565 00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:28,640 traveled in this 566 00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:31,440 first test drive and over what period of 567 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:33,279 time what's the odometer say and how 568 00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,120 long did it take to get there 569 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:37,120 and when will it be driving again thank 570 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:47,590 very much i'm not sure of the total 571 00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:50,640 odometer i mean to date this is this is 572 00:25:02,780 --> 00:24:51,840 all we've driven so 573 00:25:02,790 --> 00:25:10,070 [Music] 574 00:25:14,789 --> 00:25:13,110 marcia could you try muting 575 00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:14,799 yourself i'm trying to see if there's an 576 00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,720 issue with yes that might have been me 577 00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,320 my apologies 578 00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:20,960 no problem now let's try that again okay 579 00:25:26,830 --> 00:25:21,679 we'll have you 580 00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:29,350 seconds 581 00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:32,640 okay so um you know in total 582 00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:36,799 to do this it took us about 33 minutes 583 00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,720 like the drive it wasn't uh very long 584 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:42,799 and we drove about six and a half meters 585 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,230 when we plan on driving next uh that 586 00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:50,480 would be today 587 00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,159 we have a slightly longer drive plan 588 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:56,880 i'm not exactly sure on the drive path 589 00:26:02,310 --> 00:25:59,279 because our rover planers have 590 00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:02,320 specked that out entirely but um 591 00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:05,360 yeah we will be we're driving today and 592 00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:06,480 hopefully tomorrow 593 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,159 if all goes well 594 00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:13,120 all right thanks anais and up next is 595 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:13,600 bill 596 00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,840 ask your question 597 00:26:24,870 --> 00:26:19,600 could you please mute your mic we'll try 598 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,880 it out that way thank you 599 00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:26,960 uh absolutely i'll be happy to do that 600 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:28,720 um a question for katie you know i was 601 00:26:32,789 --> 00:26:30,640 thinking back on curiosity and it seemed 602 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,799 like the rover would get to mount sharp 603 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,480 relatively quickly and of course it took 604 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:36,480 months and months and months because of 605 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,000 all the neat things you guys found to 606 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,240 look at along the way is there even a 607 00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:42,000 nebulous timeline that says 608 00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:44,159 regardless of which path you choose how 609 00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:45,919 long it might take perseverance to get 610 00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,960 to the delta and 611 00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,640 i'm asking that especially because of 612 00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:50,720 the improvements you guys have put in it 613 00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:52,480 that let you go up to 200 614 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,559 you know meters per day just just trying 615 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:55,840 to get a sense of what 616 00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:59,200 the time is here thanks yeah that's it 617 00:27:01,909 --> 00:27:00,320 that's a great question and it's 618 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:01,919 something we're very eager to know as 619 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,559 well and 620 00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:04,400 actually we're right in the middle of 621 00:27:08,789 --> 00:27:06,400 conversations with what the 622 00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:08,799 strategic rover planners who are 623 00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,400 responsible for helping us figure out 624 00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:12,159 how long it takes to get places and and 625 00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:13,200 where we're going 626 00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,760 um and so they are just providing us the 627 00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:17,039 first estimate 628 00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:19,039 uh for for getting to the delta and so 629 00:27:21,750 --> 00:27:20,320 we are are 630 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,760 learning that information real time 631 00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:23,760 ourselves as well so i don't have a 632 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,919 an exact number to give you um but we 633 00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:27,440 are eagerly engaging in those 634 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:29,200 conversations with the strategic rp's 635 00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:34,320 right now 636 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:38,080 thank you katie and up next we have 637 00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:44,549 awesome thank you so much can you hear 638 00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:47,679 me yes we can hear you thank you 639 00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:50,960 great um so my question is for katie 640 00:27:54,549 --> 00:27:53,200 i'm curious now that perseverance has 641 00:27:57,029 --> 00:27:54,559 taken its first steps 642 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:57,039 and you know over the last two weeks so 643 00:28:00,870 --> 00:27:58,960 many images have been sent back 644 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,880 i'm curious to have mission scientists 645 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:02,399 been able to determine 646 00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,240 some of the types of rocks and surface 647 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:06,559 material that are being seen in jezreel 648 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,440 crater and 649 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:10,080 how that might compare with what you 650 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:16,070 yes thank you for that so we we have 651 00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:18,159 acquired abundant images now of our 652 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,240 landing area and so we are seeing 653 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:23,120 uh all kinds of textures uh in the rocks 654 00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:24,080 that are around 655 00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:26,720 uh perseverance's landing site um but we 656 00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,200 are 657 00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:29,200 only just getting our other instruments 658 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,480 checked out and so 659 00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,320 um those other instruments are really 660 00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:33,840 important for us uh 661 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,080 to put together a model for how these 662 00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:38,080 rocks formed and what their significance 663 00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,880 might be 664 00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:40,640 and i think next wednesday we'll we'll 665 00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:42,320 hear results from the supercam 666 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:43,279 instrument 667 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,799 which i think is really the the next 668 00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,320 step in helping us determine 669 00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:48,159 uh what these rocks are and what they 670 00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:49,679 might be um 671 00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:52,640 we landed in a very interesting area uh 672 00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:53,039 where 673 00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:55,440 we are trying to to figure out uh the 674 00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,520 origin of these rocks are they volcanic 675 00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:59,279 or are they sedimentary 676 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,480 and this is what the team has been 677 00:29:04,389 --> 00:29:02,880 thinking of um but it's hard to do that 678 00:29:06,630 --> 00:29:04,399 with images alone 679 00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:06,640 um and especially with kind of far 680 00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:08,080 distant images and so 681 00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:11,039 uh we can we do a lot of speculation on 682 00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,559 the line first 683 00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,880 with the science team but as we continue 684 00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:16,880 to acquire data sets 685 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,159 and check out our instruments we're 686 00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,600 going to learn more about these rocks 687 00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:21,840 and get those close-up views 688 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,840 of the textures and composition that are 689 00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:25,760 so important in helping us determine 690 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:27,279 exactly what these rocks are that we're 691 00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,230 thank you katie up next we have a social 692 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:35,679 media question 693 00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:39,200 bob on facebook asks what training 694 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,640 do you have to drive the rover anna uses 695 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:48,549 sure i can answer that question um so 696 00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,520 i my job is to look at data that's 697 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,200 downlinked from the rover it's actually 698 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:55,600 a completely different set of people 699 00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:57,360 that plan these drives you call them 700 00:30:02,710 --> 00:29:58,880 rover planners 701 00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:02,720 um and i believe the training you know 702 00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:05,760 is something like you know a few months 703 00:30:09,750 --> 00:30:07,200 of using like really specialized 704 00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:09,760 software and 705 00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:13,200 learning how to plan these drives 706 00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,799 and it's not actually something that 707 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:16,320 i've done 708 00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,080 but as far as you know my background for 709 00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:19,679 being a mobility test engineer and 710 00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,039 getting into the field 711 00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:23,679 i majored in mechanical engineering at 712 00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:24,559 ucla 713 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,799 and i was always interested in robotics 714 00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:28,000 and you know systems 715 00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:29,679 that moved and interacted with 716 00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:32,000 electronics and software and so 717 00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:33,600 that's how i got into what i'm doing but 718 00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:42,070 great thank you anis up next we have 719 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,549 yeah hi let me turn my 720 00:30:56,149 --> 00:30:52,960 so um i had a couple questions have you 721 00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:56,159 guys made any o2 yet from the co2 722 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:57,919 uh in the atmosphere i understand any of 723 00:31:02,230 --> 00:30:59,840 that and also um 724 00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:02,240 has anything gone wrong have there's 725 00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:03,279 been any kind of any 726 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,720 unexpected glitches or sort of problems 727 00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:08,399 you've had to overcome in terms of 728 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:09,679 you've come across while checking out 729 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:10,640 the equipment 730 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:13,440 and also what are we still talking about 731 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,640 the same time frame that you had 732 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:16,159 discussed earlier about as far as when 733 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:17,360 you might get to the 734 00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:28,149 robert do you want to take that sure i 735 00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,080 can i can take some of those 736 00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:32,159 so no we haven't uh run the moxie 737 00:31:36,230 --> 00:31:33,120 experiment 738 00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:36,240 uh yet um and so we've 739 00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,919 checked out the instrument uh but we 740 00:31:41,909 --> 00:31:40,320 haven't uh generated any o2 741 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:41,919 my knowledge and kitty can correct me on 742 00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:44,000 that if that's off 743 00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:47,360 and um we haven't had any 744 00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:50,480 hardware uh issues no everything has 745 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:52,080 been working that we've been checking 746 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:52,480 out 747 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,320 um and so it's it's actually 748 00:31:59,990 --> 00:31:59,279 been amazingly smooth uh in that respect 749 00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:00,000 i'm gonna knock on 750 00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:03,600 wood here and uh we've had minor little 751 00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:05,519 things on on process 752 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:08,240 and and questions come up but but it's 753 00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:08,640 all 754 00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:12,000 just minor stuff and and uh perseverance 755 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,279 is 756 00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,120 everything that we've looked at and 757 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:17,120 tried has worked beautifully and 758 00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,679 is really happy with the hardware uh on 759 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:20,880 the surface 760 00:32:24,149 --> 00:32:23,360 um and then on the the helicopter tech 761 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:24,159 demo 762 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:27,600 we're still uh figuring out uh the 763 00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:30,080 possible flight zones and we're taking 764 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:31,840 uh nav cam images 765 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:34,640 uh stereo images to be able to analyze 766 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:35,760 the train 767 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,600 and also the team's been looking at 768 00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:39,600 orbital images looking at possible fight 769 00:32:42,630 --> 00:32:40,559 zones and 770 00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:42,640 long story short we're still aiming for 771 00:32:45,990 --> 00:32:44,159 getting that done in 772 00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:46,000 the spring here before uh we're in the 773 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:53,190 thank you thanks so much 774 00:32:56,549 --> 00:32:55,029 thanks robert up next on the phone lines 775 00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:56,559 we have craig 776 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,200 senior from knx news radio 777 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:03,600 thank you i just wanted to know when you 778 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:05,360 talked about the distance that it's 779 00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,360 traveled 780 00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:09,200 the way i calculated it was just over 781 00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:10,640 seven yards i want to make sure that's 782 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,919 correct i also wanted to know 783 00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:13,919 and apologies if you said it already but 784 00:33:16,710 --> 00:33:15,840 how long did it take to travel that 785 00:33:21,590 --> 00:33:16,720 distance 786 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,029 yeah so um so six and a half meters 787 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:27,360 total i don't know the conversion 788 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:28,880 off the top of my head but i think 789 00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,279 that's about 21 feet 790 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:34,159 um that we've driven and it took us 791 00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:35,039 about half 792 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:45,590 thank you thanks and after that we have 793 00:33:56,549 --> 00:33:53,110 uh hi i was just wondering if there is 794 00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,559 a timeline so far for when we might see 795 00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:58,720 some of the first uh tests of the 796 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:00,399 helicopter 797 00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:14,629 sure so yes uh similarly um 798 00:34:18,629 --> 00:34:17,200 by first test maybe you mean flights uh 799 00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,639 we we are 800 00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,159 the first thing that has to happen is we 801 00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:22,000 need to deploy to the surface of mars 802 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:23,040 and so we're 803 00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:25,440 still uh analyzing various areas to 804 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,119 determine the best place to do that 805 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,079 and the right place to do uh its flights 806 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,599 it's flight zone 807 00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:34,000 so the first test will happen after the 808 00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:35,599 deployment happens 809 00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,639 uh and i i won't get into all the 810 00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:40,399 details on that we'll be covering that 811 00:34:45,829 --> 00:34:41,760 in a couple weeks 812 00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:45,839 um but again it's we're we're not on a 813 00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:48,399 uh a specific path at this time because 814 00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:49,599 we still need to figure out where we're 815 00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:50,639 going to do it and 816 00:34:55,750 --> 00:34:52,639 get through some other checkouts from in 817 00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:55,760 the uh sampling caching system area 818 00:35:00,790 --> 00:34:58,960 so uh we we hope to get the whole 819 00:35:03,430 --> 00:35:00,800 helicopter thing going before 820 00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,440 uh spring is over and so we'll be doing 821 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,359 those first 822 00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:08,240 low spin tests and checkouts and stuff 823 00:35:13,829 --> 00:35:10,000 before the actual flights 824 00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:13,839 um uh definitely before the summer 825 00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,520 and to go off 826 00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,200 to go off what robert said in the next 827 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:21,599 couple weeks we will have 828 00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:24,000 a briefing detailing the latest test 829 00:35:28,870 --> 00:35:26,079 schedule and milestones so 830 00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:28,880 stay tuned for that as well and then we 831 00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:30,160 now have a 832 00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:33,520 social media question to take bella 833 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:37,359 in london she's nine years old she asks 834 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,950 uh katie would you like to take that 835 00:35:54,470 --> 00:35:51,990 yeah although actually i i might um 836 00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:54,480 have robert help me out with this too um 837 00:35:57,270 --> 00:35:55,040 because 838 00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:57,280 what we what we've learned from the meta 839 00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:58,960 instrument is that it is indeed 840 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:02,079 very cold on mars and 841 00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:05,040 rovers uh you know need to be warmed up 842 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,480 to operate just like 843 00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,480 we need to stretch and flex our own 844 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,480 muscles before we go for a run 845 00:36:14,470 --> 00:36:12,640 and so what the rover does is it uses 846 00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:14,480 heaters it has heaters uh 847 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:16,400 that that are part of the rover um that 848 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:18,640 it uses to heat up its various 849 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:21,200 mechanisms and so before we do 850 00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:22,560 activities like 851 00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,320 driving or using the instruments or 852 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:26,560 using the rover's arm the rover warms up 853 00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:28,720 it heats itself up so that its 854 00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:30,560 mechanisms work the way that we uh 855 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,710 that's great katie yeah great question 856 00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:39,200 and and uh we we build perseverance out 857 00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:41,440 of materials that can handle 858 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:44,400 the cold temperatures on mars and uh 859 00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,119 after we put 860 00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:47,359 all these different things together we 861 00:36:53,109 --> 00:36:50,000 put we put the whole rover in a big 862 00:36:54,790 --> 00:36:53,119 spacecraft test chamber and we take it 863 00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:54,800 down to the different temperatures that 864 00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:55,920 it's going to experience 865 00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:59,520 overnight and and during the day and so 866 00:37:08,390 --> 00:36:59,920 we 867 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,400 rover and that's down at about 180 868 00:37:13,270 --> 00:37:11,280 fahrenheit just to make sure that you 869 00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:13,280 know all the aluminum pieces and all the 870 00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,920 electronic 871 00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:16,160 boards and everything are gonna do just 872 00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,040 fine 873 00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,119 and as katie mentioned a big part of 874 00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:20,960 that is making sure our whole heating 875 00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:21,680 system 876 00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:23,599 is working correctly to keep the 877 00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,440 sensitive parts 878 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:28,160 warm enough so that we can have a 879 00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:30,240 mission for several years on mars 880 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:37,670 yes thanks for writing and bella up next 881 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:38,240 we do 882 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:42,640 have irene clocks from aviation week 883 00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,200 thanks very much i have two questions uh 884 00:37:49,109 --> 00:37:46,880 first for katie 885 00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,119 is uh the decision about whether to go 886 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,599 to the left or the right to the delta at 887 00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:52,800 all related to 888 00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:55,920 where the helipad is selected 889 00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:59,200 for those completely separate operations 890 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:02,160 and for robert you mentioned the 891 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:04,000 sampling caching system 892 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:06,880 still has a checkout ahead what other 893 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:07,599 instruments 894 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:14,150 yeah i can take that that first part of 895 00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,760 the question thanks for the question 896 00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:17,040 um so there are a couple different 897 00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:18,960 factors uh that i think are are likely 898 00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:19,839 to play into 899 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,000 our decision of whether to take the 900 00:38:27,109 --> 00:38:24,720 clockwise or counterclockwise route 901 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:27,119 one is the the type of terrain and how 902 00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,480 quickly and efficiently 903 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:30,079 uh the rover planners think we can 904 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,920 traverse that terrain 905 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,760 we're very excited to get to the delta 906 00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,240 and we want to begin that exploration so 907 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:37,839 we are looking to to get there 908 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,320 efficiently but also along the way uh 909 00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:41,760 we're interested in 910 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,880 doing science as we go and so we're also 911 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,599 thinking about 912 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:47,119 interesting science targets along the 913 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,040 way the the 914 00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,760 counterclockwise route to the north is 915 00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:52,800 very smooth 916 00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:55,599 uh relatively speaking um but perhaps 917 00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:56,000 less 918 00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:58,079 interesting science targets along that 919 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,240 way whereas the southern route 920 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,880 takes us past some of these remnant 921 00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:04,320 deposits of the delta 922 00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,839 which might give us an opportunity to 923 00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:07,520 preview the delta before actually 924 00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:09,520 arriving there so we're very interested 925 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:10,000 in that 926 00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:13,359 that clockwise route and the decision to 927 00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,800 go north or south is 928 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:17,040 is largely decoupled from the the 929 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,160 helicopter 930 00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:20,880 um and and there are a number of flight 931 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,800 zones that the team is considering 932 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,880 uh but once the helicopter is has 933 00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:26,320 finished its mission that's when we'll 934 00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:26,880 decide 935 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:28,400 really whether to take the clockwise or 936 00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:34,710 on the sampling caching system and 937 00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:36,960 instrument checkouts we're actually a a 938 00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:38,640 good 939 00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,839 deal along on all the instrument 940 00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,720 checkouts um 941 00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,480 we're just finishing up the basic 942 00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,760 checkouts and then there'll be 943 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:48,240 more use case specific things that we'll 944 00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,119 be doing 945 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:51,359 and one of those for example is the 946 00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:52,720 pixel and sherlock 947 00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:54,800 instruments at the end of the arm being 948 00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:57,040 placed up close to the martian terrain 949 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,000 or rocks 950 00:40:02,069 --> 00:40:00,720 and doing their final checkouts in 951 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,079 manners that they're going to be 952 00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,880 in actual use back to the sampling 953 00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,480 caching system 954 00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:08,000 after we get through the instrument 955 00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,599 checkouts that we're doing in this first 956 00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,280 drive with rimfact 957 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:13,040 we're going to get into the the 958 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:14,880 beginnings of 959 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:18,240 deploying uh various parts of 960 00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,319 sampling caching like the belly pan off 961 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:22,160 the rover 962 00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:23,280 things like that then we're going to do 963 00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:25,760 the helicopter tech demo then come back 964 00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:29,200 and finish commissioning the whole 965 00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:32,400 uh sampling caching uh uh assembly line 966 00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:33,520 if you will 967 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:36,079 with with the internal uh arm to handle 968 00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:36,640 the 969 00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:41,680 and all that so that we're totally 970 00:40:45,829 --> 00:40:43,599 prepared to be able to 971 00:40:53,829 --> 00:40:45,839 capture samples and get them ready for 972 00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:53,839 return to earth 973 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:56,720 thank you and up next on the phone lines 974 00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:57,119 is 975 00:41:04,150 --> 00:41:01,599 john amos from bbc london 976 00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:04,160 uh hi people thanks very much and um 977 00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:05,680 it's good to talk to you 978 00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:09,119 um first question really is are we able 979 00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:10,480 to say that we've 980 00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,960 kind of moved from uh commissioning 981 00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,880 phase now into 982 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,960 to exploration um i mean you're going to 983 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:18,400 be moving now and 984 00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:21,520 and doing stuff and really for katie 985 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:21,839 that 986 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:24,960 past 987 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:27,760 that particular mound uh that you showed 988 00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:29,200 us and what's quite 989 00:41:33,670 --> 00:41:31,839 interesting about it is that there is um 990 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,680 there's a defined 991 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:36,240 rock wall on that and when you look at 992 00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:37,040 the 993 00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:43,760 awful lot of how can i put it 994 00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:47,040 dusty slope as opposed to defined rock 995 00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,000 wall which you could 996 00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:50,079 get up close to uh and examine those 997 00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:55,750 yes i can take that question so uh while 998 00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:57,599 the to address the first part so while 999 00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:58,880 the rover is still 1000 00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,760 um doing a lot of engineering checkouts 1001 00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,160 and we do of course have the helicopter 1002 00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,560 mission to to get started i do think the 1003 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,480 minute the the rover begins to move we 1004 00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:10,240 can consider ourselves explorers on the 1005 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:11,839 surface of mars and so i think 1006 00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:14,720 very much we can say that um though we 1007 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,359 won't really 1008 00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,440 really begin our our science exploration 1009 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,040 mission in earnest until the 1010 00:42:23,990 --> 00:42:21,760 the helicopter has finished its mission 1011 00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,000 um and yes i can confirm that the 1012 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:27,040 uh delta remnant that i showed in the 1013 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:27,680 image 1014 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,200 is along that southern path and 1015 00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,760 we we are intrigued by these resistant 1016 00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,440 uh outcrops because we 1017 00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,520 we know there is indeed rock to explore 1018 00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:39,119 there but you know we're also 1019 00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,839 uh intrigued by these these slopes that 1020 00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:43,680 are 1021 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,680 kind of weathering back into the into 1022 00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,040 the delta outcrop 1023 00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:49,359 um because while there are parts of the 1024 00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:50,720 the delta front 1025 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,839 uh that that look like rocky slopes what 1026 00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:55,920 that tends to mean is that those rocks 1027 00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,319 are are more or less resistant to 1028 00:43:01,349 --> 00:43:00,079 weathering and often because they are 1029 00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:01,359 finer grained and that's very 1030 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:02,560 characteristic 1031 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,960 of things like shales uh here on earth 1032 00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:06,560 that you might expect to find in a delta 1033 00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,280 deposit 1034 00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:09,359 and those very fine grain rocks that you 1035 00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:10,960 see in a delta deposit 1036 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,200 are those rocks that we are looking to 1037 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:14,560 to study for potential 1038 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:17,040 biosignatures and signs of organic 1039 00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,000 carbon 1040 00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,000 and there are places along the delta not 1041 00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:22,160 necessarily viewable in our images just 1042 00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,720 yet 1043 00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:24,640 um that are equivalent to those slopes 1044 00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,920 but actually we can tell from the 1045 00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,440 orbiter images our actual 1046 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:29,200 rock outcrops and that's really what 1047 00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,720 we're interested in exploring once we 1048 00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:32,079 get to the delta 1049 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:33,359 and so we're interested in checking out 1050 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,960 these different types of rocks within 1051 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,760 the delta 1052 00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,680 including these very fine grain rocks as 1053 00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:39,040 well as the more resistant 1054 00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:40,800 likely sandstones that we're seeing in 1055 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:43,040 those first images of the delta remnants 1056 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:52,230 thank you up next we have stephen clark 1057 00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:52,960 from 1058 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:00,960 flight now i'm just curious 1059 00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:02,960 when you expect to take out the drill 1060 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,599 and collect your first sample 1061 00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:07,760 will that be on the drive towards the 1062 00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:09,599 delta or will you wait until you get to 1063 00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,480 the delta 1064 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,720 and also um going forward will you be 1065 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:14,160 releasing daily 1066 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,640 uh status reports or summaries of what's 1067 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:17,920 been going on with the rover 1068 00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:21,280 like jbl has for previous rover missions 1069 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,960 thank you i'll talk about the first part 1070 00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,920 of that and 1071 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,079 yes in that um from a science 1072 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:30,160 perspective we are very interested in 1073 00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,160 the rocks in and around where the rover 1074 00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:33,839 is as well as the rocks 1075 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,839 along the way to the delta and at the 1076 00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:37,200 delta itself 1077 00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,119 so when sampling capabilities do come 1078 00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,680 online and i i'll pass that to robert 1079 00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,520 to address in a moment but we are 1080 00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:45,599 interested in drilling the the types of 1081 00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,880 rocks that we have in and around the 1082 00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,720 landing site but those also 1083 00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,599 extend further along the path that the 1084 00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:53,359 rover will likely drive to the delta 1085 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,880 so from a sampling perspective and a 1086 00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,400 science perspective we're interested in 1087 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,599 sampling the rocks 1088 00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:59,359 in and around where the rover is now as 1089 00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:00,720 well as the ones that we'll see along 1090 00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:04,560 the way to the delta 1091 00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:07,359 sure thanks katie and and as far as uh 1092 00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:07,839 getting 1093 00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,720 ready engineering wise for for drilling 1094 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:12,319 uh that's gonna happen after the the 1095 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:14,000 helicopter tech demo 1096 00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:16,240 when we finish all the commissioning and 1097 00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,359 calibration 1098 00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:19,440 and checkouts for for the whole sampling 1099 00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:20,800 and caching system and 1100 00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:23,599 using the robotic arm and the brighter 1101 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,240 and core 1102 00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:26,960 is going to be part of that and then uh 1103 00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,480 to your question about the the daily 1104 00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,760 reports i 1105 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:32,000 i don't have the answer off the top of 1106 00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:33,920 my head i can look into that but i will 1107 00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:34,640 say that 1108 00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:37,839 our raw images uh website is up and 1109 00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:39,440 running and so 1110 00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,079 all the images that we take get dumped 1111 00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:44,960 on there uh within 24 hours i believe 1112 00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:47,680 um and so anyway anyone can jump on 1113 00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:48,640 there and 1114 00:45:52,790 --> 00:45:51,040 see the rover tracks showing up shortly 1115 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:52,800 and all the uh mass cam 1116 00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:56,000 panorama images and everything uh 1117 00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:57,280 dumping on there daily 1118 00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,040 uh from an image basis 1119 00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,079 and stephen also so you know that 1120 00:46:08,309 --> 00:46:06,000 we do have updates that we're trying to 1121 00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:08,319 get as quickly as possible online 1122 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,599 you can go to at nasa persevere 1123 00:46:16,829 --> 00:46:14,079 on social media for updates and you can 1124 00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,839 also go to 1125 00:46:27,510 --> 00:46:18,640 mars.nasa.gov 1126 00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:27,520 perseverance and then the next person on 1127 00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:28,319 the phone line 1128 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:31,359 is leonard david from inside 1129 00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,440 outer space hi thanks very much 1130 00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,920 i just had a kind of a broader question 1131 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:39,599 about 1132 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:43,200 nasa has you know now three robots on 1133 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:44,160 mars 1134 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,880 i was curious about brain drains between 1135 00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:48,960 projects i mean do you have 1136 00:46:52,870 --> 00:46:51,920 people with expertise running between 1137 00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:52,880 the projects 1138 00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:56,079 are they sequestered in their own 1139 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,309 i can start with this one and then i'd 1140 00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:04,000 like to hear katie's thoughts as well 1141 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,880 uh so i worked on uh the mars science 1142 00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:08,480 lab for 1143 00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:12,079 seven years um and and then uh i 1144 00:47:16,309 --> 00:47:13,119 actually worked on 1145 00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:16,319 msl after it landed in operations 1146 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:19,200 uh and and worked on march 20 20 half 1147 00:47:23,430 --> 00:47:20,400 and half so 1148 00:47:26,309 --> 00:47:23,440 uh that's anecdotally to say we 1149 00:47:26,630 --> 00:47:26,319 we have uh the same the same engineers 1150 00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:26,640 that 1151 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:30,559 and carrying this 1152 00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:33,280 exceptional mars program forward of 1153 00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,720 project to project 1154 00:47:38,950 --> 00:47:36,480 and the same will be happening happening 1155 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:38,960 with the sample return rover 1156 00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,559 so we and we have engineers go back and 1157 00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:44,079 forth scientists go back and forth 1158 00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:46,319 between the projects and share knowledge 1159 00:47:49,829 --> 00:47:48,880 between the projects and and i'll say 1160 00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:49,839 with this 1161 00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,599 first time that we've had 1162 00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,920 a system that's been designed so close 1163 00:47:59,510 --> 00:47:57,040 to 1164 00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,520 um or we started from kind of from a 1165 00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:00,960 heritage standpoint 1166 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,839 we started from the msl design so all 1167 00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,680 the folks that designed and tested that 1168 00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:07,839 and put it on mars 1169 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,319 they're all at jpl already working on 1170 00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:12,480 the project or around and so we're able 1171 00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:13,440 to 1172 00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,800 pick their brains as needed so i i'd say 1173 00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:18,960 it's not a drain between the projects 1174 00:48:21,670 --> 00:48:19,280 but 1175 00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:21,680 more a confluence that takes advantage 1176 00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:24,079 of all those same engineers who can 1177 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:25,839 chip into these different missions in 1178 00:48:30,230 --> 00:48:28,960 each of their life cycles 1179 00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:30,240 and also from from a different 1180 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:32,800 perspective many of our science team 1181 00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,520 members on 1182 00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,760 the perseverance mission also uh work on 1183 00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:37,440 curiosity and i'm one of them 1184 00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:40,319 i i did an msl op shift a week before we 1185 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,920 landed and i actually have one coming up 1186 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:43,040 in a couple of weeks 1187 00:48:45,990 --> 00:48:44,400 and so it's not uncommon for our 1188 00:48:46,710 --> 00:48:46,000 scientists to go back and forth between 1189 00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:46,720 missions 1190 00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,800 and while a lot of the science attention 1191 00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:50,480 right now is on perseverance in this 1192 00:48:53,670 --> 00:48:51,280 landing site 1193 00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,680 uh curiosity is getting into some really 1194 00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,200 exciting things and so 1195 00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:57,520 uh the science team is many are going 1196 00:49:01,270 --> 00:48:59,440 back and forth between the missions 1197 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,280 and um we've got we've got exciting 1198 00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:03,200 missions on uh exciting science to do on 1199 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,800 both and what ends up happening which is 1200 00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,480 really a great synergy 1201 00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,079 is that once you have folks who are 1202 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:10,000 working on two different places on mars 1203 00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:11,760 as scientists we can kind of kick our 1204 00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:13,119 brains into thinking about well how does 1205 00:49:16,230 --> 00:49:14,720 this site compare to this site 1206 00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:16,240 and and what are we learning here at 1207 00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,599 this landing site that can help us 1208 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:19,119 understand the geology of this other 1209 00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:19,920 location 1210 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:21,839 and so we we're able to think about it 1211 00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,440 in that way which when 1212 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,960 you know you've got a single place that 1213 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,400 the science team is working on you can't 1214 00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,920 do that kind of comparison 1215 00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,280 and so it's really exciting to be able 1216 00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:31,280 to compare different places on mars 1217 00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:32,800 because we learn more about the geology 1218 00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:36,079 when thinking about that comparison 1219 00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:42,150 thank you and to our reporters again 1220 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:43,200 when you're finished 1221 00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:46,720 asking your question please hit mute 1222 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,839 i'm going to move on now to leo enright 1223 00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,040 with irish television 1224 00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:55,040 thanks very much and we journalists are 1225 00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,520 multitasking on multiple missions 1226 00:50:00,790 --> 00:50:00,160 as well i can assure you um i had a 1227 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:00,800 question 1228 00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:03,920 for katie morgan just to clarify where 1229 00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,000 these layered rocks are 1230 00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:09,119 um are they the the prominent feature 1231 00:50:15,670 --> 00:50:13,119 in katmai are are they seems less likely 1232 00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:15,680 the the the feature down at the very 1233 00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:18,800 south of big bend and uh 1234 00:50:23,589 --> 00:50:22,000 if second question if i may also related 1235 00:50:26,750 --> 00:50:23,599 to the delta remnant 1236 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,760 issue if you do decide to go 1237 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,200 counter-clockwise would you be tempted 1238 00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:31,760 to scoot over to channel islands 1239 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:34,960 um i mean it would take i guess 10 days 1240 00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:38,240 if you're driving and chewing gum at the 1241 00:50:44,870 --> 00:50:41,839 same time 1242 00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:44,880 yes um thanks for that question uh so 1243 00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:45,280 the 1244 00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:55,440 something that that we are certainly 1245 00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,359 uh very interested in considering along 1246 00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:00,160 this clockwise route 1247 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,960 if we do end up thinking about the the 1248 00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,640 counterclockwise route 1249 00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:07,200 i think the science team will be 1250 00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:08,720 interested in considering 1251 00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:12,000 um a diversion over to the what we are 1252 00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:14,000 we think very likely may be delta 1253 00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:15,920 remnants as well over in the channel 1254 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:17,040 islands quad 1255 00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,880 and for folks in the line uh different 1256 00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:20,960 quads that we have in the landing area 1257 00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,880 for perseverance we have named after 1258 00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,480 national parks and preserves and so 1259 00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:26,160 those are the names that i'm referring 1260 00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:27,520 to right now 1261 00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:30,000 and so yes along both of those paths we 1262 00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:31,200 have the potential 1263 00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:33,599 uh to study what could be remnants of 1264 00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:34,400 the delta 1265 00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,760 and that's going to factor into the 1266 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:37,520 science team's discussions 1267 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:38,880 about about these roots and the 1268 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,200 scientific potential uh 1269 00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,160 of each of the options anticipating that 1270 00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:46,880 we can again preview the delta 1271 00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:48,839 before actually arriving at the main 1272 00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:57,270 thank you katie up next on the phone 1273 00:52:03,349 --> 00:51:58,640 lines is 1274 00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:03,359 david curley with the discovery channel 1275 00:52:06,549 --> 00:52:04,640 thanks very much for taking the call 1276 00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,559 some spectacular images you guys must be 1277 00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,000 very excited i don't want to get 1278 00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:10,319 too far ahead since you haven't even 1279 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,119 checked out the sampling system but 1280 00:52:17,109 --> 00:52:15,040 with the contract now being out for the 1281 00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:17,119 retrieval spacecraft to go get those 1282 00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,000 samples it 1283 00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:20,559 becomes more real can you just give me a 1284 00:52:24,630 --> 00:52:22,079 sense of what you thought that 1285 00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,640 you know in seven eight nine ten years 1286 00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:26,559 you may actually be looking at material 1287 00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,390 monitoring 1288 00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,960 uh sure i'll i'll start with that uh 1289 00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:36,480 yeah this is 1290 00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:38,640 first i have to say the imagery coming 1291 00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:40,640 down we the cameras that we have on this 1292 00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,559 rover the 25 cameras and the the 1293 00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,680 resolution 1294 00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:45,520 the colors and the spectrums it's just 1295 00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:46,880 been amazing we've never 1296 00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:49,920 been able to explore mars uh 1297 00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:53,520 in this way and then the prospect 1298 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:56,720 of really in earnest 1299 00:53:03,190 --> 00:53:00,000 starting the sample return mission 1300 00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,200 this is this is one for the ages for 1301 00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,200 for jpl and nasa we've been talking 1302 00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:07,119 about this for for decades 1303 00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:09,520 engineers and scientists around here 1304 00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:10,480 wanting to do this 1305 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:13,280 and and uh we've also had a first with 1306 00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:14,000 this project 1307 00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,359 as far as i know the the next rover to 1308 00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:18,880 return the samples was 1309 00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:21,599 was baseline was given the green light 1310 00:53:26,390 --> 00:53:22,400 um before 1311 00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,400 launch and so all things considered that 1312 00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:28,160 that's a huge uh 1313 00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:31,440 you know um confidence 1314 00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:34,000 um statement in in this project and what 1315 00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,200 we're doing and 1316 00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:38,400 and the institution's ability to land 1317 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:41,520 systems on the surface of another solar 1318 00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:42,480 body 1319 00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:46,880 um with with high confidence so 1320 00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,760 it's been incredible uh being on the 1321 00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:51,440 surface for 14 days now 1322 00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,720 being able to uh get into a position to 1323 00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:56,240 actually start 1324 00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,920 the sample mission and uh i'll let katie 1325 00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,960 talk to 1326 00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,640 the excitement of the samples that we 1327 00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:04,160 might be able to get 1328 00:54:07,589 --> 00:54:05,920 and the prospect even though it seems 1329 00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:07,599 like a long time away 1330 00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,160 it's gonna pass in the blink of an eye 1331 00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,680 when we'll be able to get these uh 1332 00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:13,599 coming back to earth for scientists 1333 00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:16,720 all over the world to analyze 1334 00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:18,640 yeah and we've been thinking on the 1335 00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,839 science team about 1336 00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,240 notional samples to collect in jezreel 1337 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,160 crater for for years now 1338 00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:26,400 and thinking about the the potential 1339 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,280 there for 1340 00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:29,680 sample mars sample return and return 1341 00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:31,040 sample science once those 1342 00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:33,440 once those samples get back to earth but 1343 00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,800 of course that's always at a very high 1344 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,480 level because what we had to work on 1345 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:39,119 were only the orbiter images uh so now 1346 00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:40,720 that we're on the surface seeing the 1347 00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:42,400 actual rocks through the eyes of the 1348 00:54:47,589 --> 00:54:44,880 rover uh it adds a whole other level of 1349 00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:47,599 detail and excitement about the sampling 1350 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,520 uh that this rover is going to do on the 1351 00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:50,960 surface of mars and so 1352 00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:52,319 you know we're already starting to think 1353 00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:54,240 about you know are these rocks in and 1354 00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,680 around where the landing 1355 00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:57,119 area is are these rocks that we're going 1356 00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:59,040 to want to put in our sample cache 1357 00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:01,280 um and and what would come next heading 1358 00:55:03,990 --> 00:55:02,160 to the delta 1359 00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,000 and so we're actually talking about real 1360 00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:05,920 rocks now uh and that's that's so 1361 00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:07,839 exciting to us in the science team 1362 00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,280 because we can start to really think 1363 00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,000 about uh the impact that these samples 1364 00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,160 uh will have on on future scientific 1365 00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,319 endeavors and our understanding of these 1366 00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:18,240 big questions we have about life beyond 1367 00:55:23,430 --> 00:55:19,920 earth and the evolution of planets in 1368 00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:26,549 thank you thank you 1369 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:29,200 we also have a social media question 1370 00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:30,160 coming in 1371 00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:34,319 anais ed on facebook asks when driving 1372 00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:37,599 do you just lay in a course and let ai 1373 00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:39,839 handle the details or do you have a 1374 00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:40,880 program 1375 00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:42,640 that's a mechanic for each wheels 1376 00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,119 according to the specific typography 1377 00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,440 yeah so i mean there are a couple 1378 00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:53,520 different ways to drive a rover right if 1379 00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:55,040 you know what the terrain in front of 1380 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,559 you looks like 1381 00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:58,960 um you can give the rover very specific 1382 00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,680 instructions 1383 00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:01,520 like we did on our first drive right you 1384 00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,119 can say drive 1385 00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,760 so many meters forward turn left then 1386 00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:06,960 drive this far 1387 00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:09,359 then do this thing but you can only do 1388 00:56:12,630 --> 00:56:10,079 that for 1389 00:56:14,069 --> 00:56:12,640 so long right a few tens of meters as 1390 00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:14,079 long as you know what the terrain 1391 00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,440 underneath you look like and you know 1392 00:56:19,910 --> 00:56:17,680 that it's safe to drive on 1393 00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,920 but once you get into longer distances 1394 00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:21,119 that's where our ai 1395 00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,920 and our auto nav comes in so over longer 1396 00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:25,760 distances so we're trying like tens of 1397 00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,599 meters 1398 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,040 you don't necessarily know what the 1399 00:56:33,190 --> 00:56:31,920 ground looks like underneath you at all 1400 00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:33,200 times or you don't know 1401 00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:36,559 in that grade of detail so you will give 1402 00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:38,319 or what we'll do is give the rover a 1403 00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:39,760 goal 1404 00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,680 um you know sometimes meters away 1405 00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:43,280 wherever we want it to go 1406 00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,000 and then from there that's where ai 1407 00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:48,000 kicks in it'll start taking stereo pairs 1408 00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:48,720 and images 1409 00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,079 processing those images now on our vce 1410 00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,359 instead of our main computer 1411 00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,280 and it'll identify hazards in the 1412 00:57:02,309 --> 00:56:59,440 terrain and then 1413 00:57:03,510 --> 00:57:02,319 decide on its next drive step 1414 00:57:07,910 --> 00:57:03,520 essentially 1415 00:57:10,710 --> 00:57:07,920 forward you know as far as 1416 00:57:13,270 --> 00:57:10,720 how it decides what's safe it kind of 1417 00:57:16,630 --> 00:57:13,280 like you mentioned right 1418 00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:16,640 it analyzes what is going to sit 1419 00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,040 under each individual wheel and then 1420 00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,599 from that determines whether or not it's 1421 00:57:27,589 --> 00:57:25,440 going to be safe to drive over that 1422 00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,599 you know her rock is too tall we're not 1423 00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,760 going there mark that spot bad don't 1424 00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:31,359 drive over it 1425 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:39,589 thank you and we have a reporter 1426 00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:40,400 question 1427 00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:44,000 mike howard from american spectator 1428 00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:45,760 thanks a lot and thanks for doing these 1429 00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,960 calls i got a question for robert 1430 00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,359 the perseverance has a twin rover on 1431 00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:53,280 earth i think it's called optimism 1432 00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,640 you can use that to work out any 1433 00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:56,480 potential issues that 1434 00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,000 perseverance comes across does ingenuity 1435 00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:01,680 have a similar twin 1436 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,640 and for katie is there any scientific 1437 00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:06,640 data to be gleaned in visiting the sky 1438 00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:07,119 crane 1439 00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:14,950 uh sure so uh the uh 1440 00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,760 so i'm not on the the helicopter project 1441 00:58:22,069 --> 00:58:19,440 but to my knowledge 1442 00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,079 um i don't think there's an exact 1443 00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:24,480 duplicate of ingenuity but there is 1444 00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,839 a a test set of electronics 1445 00:58:31,990 --> 00:58:30,160 and some other mock-ups and prototypes 1446 00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:32,000 and stuff and obviously 1447 00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:35,440 flying a helicopter in the mars yard at 1448 00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:36,079 jpl 1449 00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,680 is a different story because of the uh 1450 00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,359 difference in in the 1451 00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,680 atmosphere between the two planets but 1452 00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:43,359 of course that was done 1453 00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:46,160 with uh the the flight helicopter and 1454 00:58:50,069 --> 00:58:46,799 and other 1455 00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:50,079 test versions in a vacuum 1456 00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,799 chamber earlier at jpl so don't hold me 1457 00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:53,680 to that but 1458 00:58:57,589 --> 00:58:57,359 for sure there are significant parts of 1459 00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:57,599 it 1460 00:59:01,349 --> 00:59:00,400 that have a duplicate for testing and 1461 00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:01,359 we've used those 1462 00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:04,240 for tests with the rover in the mars 1463 00:59:09,829 --> 00:59:06,079 yard and other places 1464 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,270 and in terms of the second part of your 1465 00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:13,920 question the entry descent landing 1466 00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:16,559 engineers would would certainly probably 1467 00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:18,079 appreciate if we drove over to the 1468 00:59:21,910 --> 00:59:18,880 places where 1469 00:59:23,430 --> 00:59:21,920 the the edl hardware has has crashed on 1470 00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:23,440 mars so they can take a look at how it 1471 00:59:25,589 --> 00:59:24,960 interacted with the surface and where it 1472 00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:25,599 is 1473 00:59:29,190 --> 00:59:27,599 um but from a science perspective we 1474 00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,200 typically steer clear 1475 00:59:32,630 --> 00:59:31,680 of places that that the the mission has 1476 00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:32,640 uh 1477 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,559 the surface of mars 1478 00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,160 in that we're looking now at this point 1479 00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:40,480 uh for pristine parts of mars that we 1480 00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:41,040 have not 1481 00:59:45,990 --> 00:59:44,559 any way 1482 00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:46,000 and that's particularly important for 1483 00:59:48,069 --> 00:59:47,680 our sampling objectives and making sure 1484 00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,079 that 1485 00:59:52,069 --> 00:59:50,480 our samples uh really really represent 1486 00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:52,079 what mars has to offer as opposed to 1487 00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:53,599 what we've brought with us 1488 00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:56,559 and so we typically steer clear of of 1489 00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,079 thinking about science in and around 1490 01:00:06,390 --> 01:00:00,000 places where the edl hardware has 1491 01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:09,190 thank you and that is all the time we 1492 01:00:11,829 --> 01:00:10,480 have for questions today 1493 01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:11,839 unfortunately we can't get to all of 1494 01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:14,000 them but reporters you can 1495 01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,079 call 818-354-5011 1496 01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:22,160 and we will get you follow-ups and 1497 01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:23,200 continue to answer 1498 01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:25,119 any questions that you might have we'll 1499 01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:26,960 also do be doing that via 1500 01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:30,480 social media now for more updates on the 1501 01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:31,280 mission 1502 01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:34,880 visit nasa.gov perseverance 1503 01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:39,040 and mars.nasa.gov perseverance 1504 01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:42,000 you can also follow us on social media 1505 01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:42,720 at 1506 01:00:48,630 --> 01:00:45,760 nasa persevere and to those 1507 01:00:49,750 --> 01:00:48,640 following perseverance's journey you 1508 01:00:52,230 --> 01:00:49,760 inspire us 1509 01:00:54,549 --> 01:00:52,240 as much as we hope this mission will 1510 01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,559 continue to inspire you 1511 01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,160 thank you for being with us on this 1512 01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:58,160 journey of exploration 1513 01:01:01,430 --> 01:01:00,000 we're going to close this briefing with 1514 01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,440 a video looking back 1515 01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:03,599 at the landing that happened just two 1516 01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,880 weeks ago 1517 01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:06,799 and the people around the world who 1518 01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:08,559 joined us and supported us 1519 01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:20,150 propulsion go edl sleep 1520 01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,480 we have deemed perseverance ready to 1521 01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,799 execute entry descent and landing on her 1522 01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,559 own 1523 01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:28,799 confirmation of entry interface 1524 01:01:33,829 --> 01:01:31,359 presidents is currently going 5.3 1525 01:01:38,230 --> 01:01:33,839 kilometers per second about 120 1526 01:01:40,789 --> 01:01:38,240 kilometers from the surface of mars 1527 01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:40,799 it will start controlling its path to 1528 01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:46,870 parachute has deployed and we are seeing 1529 01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:57,750 the heat shield has been separated first 1530 01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:01,280 now has radar lock on the ground 1531 01:02:08,549 --> 01:02:06,240 the battle has separated 1532 01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:08,559 skycam maneuver has started about 20 1533 01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:19,589 tango delta nominal touchdown confirmed 1534 01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:20,640 faithfully 1535 01:02:34,810 --> 01:02:23,440 on the surface of mars ready to begin 1536 01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:34,820 seeking the fans of past life 1537 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:35,200 [Music] 1538 01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:40,490 [Applause] 1539 01:03:04,040 --> 01:02:48,710 [Music] 1540 01:03:04,050 --> 01:03:10,820 [Applause]